how far did jordan go without pippen or rodman

Michael Jordan still went very far without Scottie Pippen, but the clearest answer depends on which phase you mean.

Without Pippen

In Jordan’s early Bulls years, he did not get past the first round until Chicago improved around him. The user-visible debate around his “without Pippen” record points to teams that were often only 7th or 8th seeds, so the runs were limited by roster quality more than Jordan’s scoring.

Without Rodman

Without Dennis Rodman, Jordan’s Bulls already had a title-winning core in place with Pippen and Phil Jackson, so Rodman was more of a later-era boost than the foundation. Rodman is widely described as a major factor in the Bulls’ second three-peat, especially for rebounding and defense.

Practical answer

So, in plain terms:

• Without Pippen: Jordan’s teams mostly did not go deep in the playoffs, especially early on.

• Without Rodman: Jordan still had a championship-caliber team, but Rodman helped turn it into a dominant one.

The strongest one-line takeaway is that Jordan’s deepest success came with both Pippen and Rodman, while his pre-prime teams without Pippen were usually not built to go far.

TL;DR: Jordan’s playoff ceiling without Pippen was much lower; without Rodman, the Bulls were still elite, but less dominant.